Dealing with Bozos and Bullies with Iggy Perillo

The title of this episode of Camera Ready & Abel – Dealing with Bozos and Bullies – tells you a lot about my guest for this episode. Iggy Perillo, founder of WSL Leadership, helps leaders and educators do right by their people with warmth, humor and compassion, training them to do the hardest part of great work more easily, through group and one-on-one coaching masterminds and experiential workshops designed to make it simple for them to connect with their people, create meaningful change and amplify positive culture.

Because research shows positive work cultures lead to more innovation, growth and profit (and less stress).

You’ve probably encountered at least a few bozos and bullies in your life. I know I have. Iggy makes it clear your perception is a matter or perspective. More key takeaways:

  • Power dynamics are real
  • It really does start at the top
  • We’re all doing the best with what we have
  • Leaders must promote psychological safety
  • A thriving workplace requires cognitive empathy
  • Know when to flex versus when to be flexible.

Learn more about Iggy’s transformational work at

Here are the books we discuss inspired by Iggy’s Books Applied Podcast

  • Quit – Annie Duke
  • Mindset – Carol Dweck
  • Peak – Anders Ericsson
  • Atomic Habits – James Clear
  • Dare to Lead – Brene Brown
  • The Dawn of Everything – David Graeber and David Wengrow
  • The Creative Act – Rick Rubin
  • The Forty Rules of Love – Elif Shafak
  • Pachinko – Min Jin Lee
  • Talent is Overrated – Geoffrey Colvin
  • Latebloomers – Rick Karlgaard
  • The War of Art – Steven Pressfield
  • The Artists Journey – Steven Pressfield
  • Do the Work – Steven Pressfield
  • Turning Pro – Steven Pressfield
  • Nobody Wants to Read Your Sh*t – Steven Pressfield
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